"From the very beginning, there was a
conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed
to go," Paul O'Neill told the CBS television programme "60
Minutes," in an interview broadcast on Sunday.
"For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the
US has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a
really huge leap," he added.
Bush sacked O'Neill - a former chief executive of
aluminum giant Alcoa known for his blunt talk - in December 2002 for
publicly doubting the need for the president's sweeping tax cut
plans.
The interview came after O'Neill served as the
main source for an upcoming book, "The Price of Loyalty,"
which paints an insider's view of the Bush administration.
Speaking to Time magazine, O'Neill said: "In
the 23 months I was there, I never saw anything that I would
characterise as evidence of weapons of mass destruction.
"To me there is a difference between real
evidence and everything else. And I never saw anything in the
intelligence that I would characterise as real evidence."
Early brainstorming
Bush took office in January 2001 - and in his
first three months in power, officials were already looking at
military options to remove Saddam from power, according to documents
that O'Neill and other White House insiders gave author Ron Suskind.
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"It
was all about finding a way to do it," O'Neill is
quoted in the book as saying. "That was the tone of it,
the president saying, 'Go find me a way to do this.'"
Paul O'Neill,
former Treasury secretary
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Officials were looking into including post-war
contingencies such as peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals and
the future of Iraq's oil, according to the documents.
One of the memos, marked "secret," says
"Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq," Suskind told "60
Minutes."
A Pentagon document, titled "Foreign Suitors
For Iraqi Oilfield Contracts," talks about "contractors
around the world from ... 30, 40 countries and which ones have what
intentions on oil in Iraq," according to Suskind.
O'Neill told Suskind he was surprised that no one
on Bush's national security council - which includes national
security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State Colin Powell
and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld -- questioned why Iraq should
be invaded.
'Find a way to do it'
"It was all about finding a way to do
it," O'Neill is quoted in the book as saying. "That was
the tone of it, the president saying, 'Go find me a way to do
this.'"
In one White House meeting, Bush seemed to waver
about going forward with his second round of controversial tax cuts.
"Haven't we already given money to rich
people?" Bush uttered, according to Suskind, who uses a nearly
verbatim transcript of an economic team meeting as a source.
"Shouldn't we be giving money to the
middle?"
White House spokesman Scott McClellan on Friday
deflected repeated questions about O'Neill's assertions. "I
don't do book reviews," he said.
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"I'm
not going to respond to a book that's not out yet. I haven't
seen him explain those comments. I didn't sit in on those
meetings, so I wouldn't be privy to any of that."
Don Evans, Commerce Secretary
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Aides have often said that Bush sets the tone and
the broad principles of his administration's policies but delegates
the details to his top advisors.
In a CNN interview on Sunday, Commerce Secretary
Don Evans defended Bush, describing him as a decisive president -
"focused on the issue, where he is driving the discussion,
where he is driving the debate, he is asking the tough questions and
then making the tough decisions, and doing it in a very decisive
kind of way."
'No comment'
"I'm not going to respond to a book that's
not out yet. I haven't seen him explain those comments. I didn't sit
in on those meetings, so I wouldn't be privy to any of that,"
said Evans of meetings O'Neill refers to.
O'Neill was the first cabinet member to leave
since Bush took office in January 2001. Environmental Protection
Agency head Christine Whitman left in June 2003. Housing and Urban
Development Secretary Mel Martinez quit in December 2003.
In the interview, O'Neill said he was surprised at
the lack of dialogue between Bush and his top aides, either as a
group or in face-to-face meetings and that he asked no questions
during their first one-on-one meeting with him.
"I went in with a long list of things to talk
about and, I thought, to engage (him) on. ... I was surprised it
turned out me talking and the president just listening. ... It was
mostly a monologue," O'Neill said.